No Good Deed...
Nov. 18th, 2008 05:32 pmTwo pieces of mail were delivered to my new box today. One was from Springfield. It contained a summons for jury service.
WTF? I just served.
Oh. These are the feds, not the state. "If you served the one day/one trial in any state court, it does not excuse you from the Federal Court."
Okay, understood, but it gets worse. Significantly worse. Federal Court is an 8-week, on call system. It means not knowing until the Friday before service starts when one needs to report. From what I can tell, it's then a matter of calling in weekly and going over to Springfield whenever I'm required to. Two months of uncertainty is going to make it awfully damned hard to commit to project delivery dates with clients.
They say vacations, medical and business appointments are allowed during the term of jury service if the Clerk's office is notified in advance, but I plan to be out of state when jury service starts and I can only find out if a deferral is accepted 10 days prior...which is after my trip will have started. Add to that the uncertainties of winter weather and travel. Not good.
The eight weeks cover what is traditionally one of the busy periods for my business. A third or more of my gross annual income traditionally comes from work done during those eight weeks. It's not a good time to add a large dose of uncertainty into my life. I'm already dealing with more uncertainty than I would prefer thanks to some upcoming medical tests. Oh, the joy.
Unlike the civilized Massachusetts system, there isn't an automatic deferral option to reschedule jury service once. Oh, yeah, and no cell phones allowed in the Federal Courthouse. No computers or other electronics, either. Heck, they don't even allow beverages to be brought in.
All in all, this sucks. I take the importance and need for jury duty seriously, but this is whiplash, coming as it does as a complete surprise...and a harsh one at that compared to the totally reasonable, easy to deal with Massachusetts system.
I'm going to take them at their word on vacations, medical appointments, and business appointments scheduled before the summons arrived and notify them of all of them that are already on my calendar. Ghu knows what I'll do about the ones that aren't. I'm also going to apply for a deferral. From what I can tell from the information provided, there are times when Federal jury service would not constitute an hardship to my business and life. Well, the two months of uncertainty will always be a hardship in terms of clients and project scheduling, but there are times that it's likely to be problematic but manageable. In January and February, it looks potentially incapacitating. March, too.
Here's hoping they're willing to reschedule me for the spring. And that they manage to tell me before December 26th that I don't have to appear in court on Monday, January 5th.
Arrrgh. Did they really have to come up with this kind of punishment to counterbalance the overall ease of my first experience with jury duty, the one that took place just 18 days ago?
WTF? I just served.
Oh. These are the feds, not the state. "If you served the one day/one trial in any state court, it does not excuse you from the Federal Court."
Okay, understood, but it gets worse. Significantly worse. Federal Court is an 8-week, on call system. It means not knowing until the Friday before service starts when one needs to report. From what I can tell, it's then a matter of calling in weekly and going over to Springfield whenever I'm required to. Two months of uncertainty is going to make it awfully damned hard to commit to project delivery dates with clients.
They say vacations, medical and business appointments are allowed during the term of jury service if the Clerk's office is notified in advance, but I plan to be out of state when jury service starts and I can only find out if a deferral is accepted 10 days prior...which is after my trip will have started. Add to that the uncertainties of winter weather and travel. Not good.
The eight weeks cover what is traditionally one of the busy periods for my business. A third or more of my gross annual income traditionally comes from work done during those eight weeks. It's not a good time to add a large dose of uncertainty into my life. I'm already dealing with more uncertainty than I would prefer thanks to some upcoming medical tests. Oh, the joy.
Unlike the civilized Massachusetts system, there isn't an automatic deferral option to reschedule jury service once. Oh, yeah, and no cell phones allowed in the Federal Courthouse. No computers or other electronics, either. Heck, they don't even allow beverages to be brought in.
All in all, this sucks. I take the importance and need for jury duty seriously, but this is whiplash, coming as it does as a complete surprise...and a harsh one at that compared to the totally reasonable, easy to deal with Massachusetts system.
I'm going to take them at their word on vacations, medical appointments, and business appointments scheduled before the summons arrived and notify them of all of them that are already on my calendar. Ghu knows what I'll do about the ones that aren't. I'm also going to apply for a deferral. From what I can tell from the information provided, there are times when Federal jury service would not constitute an hardship to my business and life. Well, the two months of uncertainty will always be a hardship in terms of clients and project scheduling, but there are times that it's likely to be problematic but manageable. In January and February, it looks potentially incapacitating. March, too.
Here's hoping they're willing to reschedule me for the spring. And that they manage to tell me before December 26th that I don't have to appear in court on Monday, January 5th.
Arrrgh. Did they really have to come up with this kind of punishment to counterbalance the overall ease of my first experience with jury duty, the one that took place just 18 days ago?
Yes we can? Oh no you don't!
Date: 2008-11-19 12:24 am (UTC)My deepest condolences. I hope you can bang the heartship hammer into the minds of these folks...oh, wait, it's the feddies we're dealing with.
((hugs))
Re: Yes we can? Oh no you don't!
Date: 2008-11-19 12:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-19 12:41 am (UTC)Contact them asap, and here's hoping it works out for you.
Dr-paisley got that notice/. he beat me to the draw!
Date: 2008-11-19 12:44 am (UTC)He called or mailed in (don't remember) that we already had reservations, they mailed back that he should just call Mondays once he got back.
Our local (county) judges are hard-ass on sitting jury duty, they let you know that in the 'informational" film they show at the start of every jury service. Last time I was called, it was for a Tuesday docket set, we sat around until noon and got dismissed plus a 2-year excuse from the county courts.
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Date: 2008-11-19 01:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-19 01:25 am (UTC)Re: Yes we can? Oh no you don't!
Date: 2008-11-19 01:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-19 02:40 am (UTC)This 8-week deal is boggling enough.
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Date: 2008-11-19 03:39 am (UTC)It never seems to occur to bureaucrats that self-employed people have different constraints on their lives than people who can just tell their boss, Sorry, you have to let me off for jury duty. (At least here, they have to let you off.)
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Date: 2008-11-19 03:43 am (UTC)Federal court service differs a lot by location. In New York, it was the same as state (and they cross-exempted as well).
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Date: 2008-11-19 04:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-19 04:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-19 05:09 am (UTC)Much of my distress is specifically due to the fact that I do believe jury service is a civic duty, one that I am obligated to perform when called upon to do so. I hate asking even for a deferral, even though I believe a valid argument could be made to be completely excused given that the way they have the Federal Court jury service system set up here, it will make it all but impossible for me to commit to client and project deadlines for the time I serve.
Mostly, it's reminding me of just how close to the edge I live. I need more flex, more of a cushion, to step back from the edge of the metaphorical cliff even a foot or two. There are lots of things in life that can cause turmoil and uncertainty for eight weeks or more. Up until now, I've always been able to pack my computer along and to my best of continue working on projects and meeting deadlines through those times. But there are some circumstances where that's not an option, and I need to be able to pay bills and figure out business workarounds during them.
And I'm working toward that. I'm just years away from achieving it.
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Date: 2008-11-19 05:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-19 07:47 am (UTC)I expect that although they are presenting an unreasonably hardass front for whatever reasons they think they need to, if you are persistent in your research and willing to wait on hold at the right telephone numbers, you will be able to defer your federal jury service until a time more convenient to you. Expressing to the officials in charge of arranging such things that you are more than willing to serve, only not just this month, ought to cut a lot of ice with them. I expect they are used to taking calls from people who consider jury duty a form of slavery, and will find your calls a refreshing relief by comparison.
It still sucks that you will have to do so much work just to reschedule, though.
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Date: 2008-11-19 10:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-19 09:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-20 09:31 pm (UTC)